July 15, 2008
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Malcolm
Barrett, who guest stars in "Mr.
Monk Gets Lotto Fever" as a
lotto crazed murder suspect, is
a Brooklyn born actor, director,
writer, comedian, licensed poet
and all around renaissance guy.
Before immigrating
to the west coast he co-starred
in the first national tour of the
pulitzer prize winning play "Wit"
with Judith Light.
He's
appeared in a wide variety of films
and television shows including Law
and Order, The Sopranos,
As the World Turns, It's
Always Sunny in Philadelphia,
Ghost Whisperer and
Psych. We
had an in depth phone conversation
a couple of weeks ago all about
his Monk appearance and
his career in general.
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So
you're in the upcoming Monk
episode "Monk Gets Lotto
Fever," right?
That
is correct. I'm in that one.
So
how did you get your role
in that?
Well,
the way I got it was... a
couple of ways, I guess. Do
you know David
Breckman?
Yes,
yes I do.
Yeah,
I think you guys just did
an
interview with him, but
he's actually a buddy of mine.
About three or four years
ago I was in a sketch comedy
troop with actress Cameron
Meyer who is now his current
wife. So actually me and her
became friends a couple of
years ago. Through him I wound
up auditioning for a small
role of a curator at a museum
who had some sort of a speech.
I actually wound up getting
the part, but not taking it
just because it was a small
thing and my reps were not
wanting me to do that blah
blah blah.... I wound up talking
to Dave and saying "I'm
sorry" and he completely
understood. I told him I was
a big fan of the show and
if ever I got the opportunity
again I'd pretty much tell
my reps, you know, f*!@ them
and I'm doing it no matter
what.
I
remember that museum curator
role in that episode was pretty
small, but that actor went
on to do the villain (Raza)
in Iron
Man.
Oh,
yeah. Who played that role?
That
was um... I can't remember
the name now [it was in fact
Faran
Tahir], but....
See
had I done that I could now
be in Iron
Man and I'd be making
billions. I'm never going
to listen to them again. So
me and David talked about
me playing a part for a while.
I said, "Just let me
know, let me know" and
then this part came up. I
didn't definitely think I
would have it or anything
like that, because nothing's
really expected in this business
as far as I'm concerned, even
though the character's actually
named Malcolm, Malcolm O'Dwyer.
So
do you think they already
had you in mind for the role
when they asked you in to
audition?
I don't know if this
was specifically written....
because you know how the writers'
room works. The guys have
to kick ideas and characters
around. I don't know if Dave
just knew this was a character
he wanted me to play from
a date, but he always had
in mind that he wanted me
to be on the show and then
this character came about.
He said he wanted me to come
in for it and then I got it.
So I mean I'd have to ask
him, is this written exactly
for me? But I don't know.
I just know that he had me
in mind for the character.
But even then I was still,
I don't think I'll get it.
I have a good chance, but
I have no real clue. So I
wound up audtioning for it,
me and another dude, and getting
it. I'm sure it would have
to be Dave's idea or somebody's
to name the character Malcolm.
They probably had me in mind
to play the role, but the
character description is also
a little older than I am.
I mean I think it's supposed
to be a late thirties or forties
professor or something to
that effect. You know, wild
haired and so I did my own
take on that.
So
who is your character? What
kind of a guy is he?
My
character's name is Malcolm
O'Dwyer and I guess the description
is sort of the wildhaired
guy. What it said in the scene
was, the guy from A
Beautiful Mind has
become obsessed with the lotto.
Oh
okay, yeah.
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So
that was essentially my springboard
or my jumping off point for
the character. It was that
description and what I was
interested in doing artistically
at the time. So it's essentially
this guy who is a huge fan
of the California
State Lottery system and
just has devoted his life
to that, devoted his life
to the lottery. His place
is covered in lotto tickets
and he's just become completely
obsessed with the show. Then
I believe it's Traylor's character
that winds up being one of
the lotto girls. So he's interested
in her and has pictures of
her and all of the lotto girls
really. |
Natalie,
the Lotto Girl |
Then there's of course a mystery that
happens: there's a murder
of one of the girls and I'm
suspected of being one of
the people who might have
done it. So that's sort of
where we meet my character.
I had the idea of it being
this professor who had lost
his job because he had become
so obsessed with the lotto
that it took all of his time.
I figure if you see his apartment
if, when you see the episode,
it feels exactly like that,
like this guy has given up
his life for this and found
meaning in the lottery.
Uh
huh.
Which
was great, because they allowed
me to approach it from this
very theatrical point of view.
Because it's a single camera
comedy/drama or whatever you
want to call it. It gives
you a lot more freedom to
give the character more depth
and have him almost have a
message or be a little more
grounded than he would in
say a half-hour sitcom. I
mean three cameras or something
like that. You're not just
doing a sort of dog
and pony show, you actually
get to have some depth.
So
has the other television work
you've done not been that
flexible?
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It's
been different sorts of
things. A lot of my roles
are usually making a joke
on either nerds or around
the way dudes and really
the depth of it depends
on the type of show it is.
You know I've done some
sitcoms and done pilots
for sitcoms as well and
three camera just tends
to be hitting the joke.
Do you know what I mean?
Yes.
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It's a lot more fun in single camera
as well. On those sorts of
shows you get to have the
funny, but you get to have
people think a little bit
more and get to play with
getting the beats and silence
and different things other
than just ba dum bum. You
know what I mean?
Right.
Do you get more time to work?
No,
I mean they're both quick
in their own regard. If you're
shooting a pilot for a sitcom
I always feel like you have
way too much time, especially
for the type of jokes they
are. It's really just set
up and joke. So you kind of
don't want to do it too much
simply because it gets stale
really quickly.
I
just enjoy anything where
I get to have some room like
this show. It was very evident
that it was very creative
and I'd be able to do what
I wanted and create different
things in a scene very quickly.
There are moments where I'm
like getting some information....
I'm about to write something
down because I have like this
newsletter devoted to lottery
and there's all these like
lotto balls surrounding my
house and I just sort of put
these lottery balls in my
pocket before the scene and
just filled my pockets with
them. I didn't really say
anything to anybody about
it. And I put these little
lotto balls in my pocket right
before I was getting my pen
out so that they kind of spill
out while I'm getting this
information.
And
I do this thing, because I've
been trying to sort of change
my appearances with my character,
just exploring that, so I
sort of put a part in my hair,
this sort of late 80s sort
of Arnold Jackson Diff'rent
Strokes part in my
hair. It's my theory that
that's when he sort of stopped
taking care of himself and
his looks. Like a certain
amount of church folks, I
think they keep the same hair
style they had when they first
got saved. You know what I
mean? So they let me do that
and no one really said anything
about it. I just did it and
you know the hair person was
just sort of like, let's go.
It was just little things
like that where you got to
create and you knew they would
be captured, because of how
it was. There wasn't a whole
lot of people going, "What
are you doing?" or "That's
too much" or "This
won't be seen" or "This
is stepping over a joke."
It's all just sort of flowing.
It was fun, it was good.
It
was actually a weird experience
in terms of what they would
let me do. When I actually
had the audition for the role
I worried that I was too dramatic.
I had David Breckman in the
audtion room with me and I'm
doing the audition and I didn't
even think of the comedy side
of it. I was approaching it
just as a drama, a dramatic
play almost. The thing that
threw me off is that a couple
lines in David's laughing.
David Breckman's like laughing
while I'm doing this thing.
I'm going, like half way in,
is this a comedy? Am I supposed
to be funny? Is that what
this is? I have no clue what's
happening. Then I realize
after the fact, when I'm talking
to some people, the fact that
my character takes all of
this stuff so seriously that
some of this comedy actually
comes out of it.
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I
didn't really realize it.
I didn't think about it,
because I was so caught
up in the dramatics of the
character. Why is he taking
this thing so super seriously,
taking this lottery thing
as the meaning of life,
essentially. You know, because
winning the lottery isn't
important to my character...
to Malcolm's character.
It's the journey that he
takes while trying to find
his lucky numbers. So that's
sort of the fun of the character
for me.
It
sort of sounds like that
character mirrors Monk.
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Yes,
definitely. There are a
lot of similarities. They
definitely both have a bit
of obsessive compulsive
nature to them, I think.
The only thing is they have
them in the exact opposite
way. I think Tony's character
of Monk is very obsessive
in terms of being clean
and doesn't want to touch
anything and I think that
mine.... Tony's character
winds up being at my apartment
near the very end and is
almost scared of it, because
it's so cluttered and it's
so covered in lottery tickets
and this and that. Actually
there's like a brief look
to each other. It's like
a small improvised scene
that we wound up having,
me and Tony, where he comes
and I'm working and we're
there at the same time.
He's about to leave and
I'm just watching him and
it's these two oddballs
of like who is the bigger
weirdo. It's almost a standoff
of like who is more insane
right now. You know what
I mean? So there is definitely
a little nod to Tony's character,
I think in some respects,
just sort of taking it into
a slightly different spectrum.
So did
you work with the rest of
the cast as well?
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Well,
my scenes were mainly with
Ted Levine, who is an amazing
actor and tons of fun to work
with. It was with Ted and
I'm blanking on the other
guy's name... it's Jason [Gray-Stanford].
Jason,
yes.
Yeah,
yeah. It was mainly being
questioned by those two. It
was really awesome because
I'm a super huge fan of Ted's.
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Everyone
on the set was ridiculously
nice to me. They spoke to
me as though I had been working
on the show for months. I
didn't feel like I was skipping
a beat. It was an awesome
environment to be in and to
just watch these guys just
do their thing. I would watch
Ted do these takes and...
you know they've been doing
that show for six, seven years
now and it's really easy for
veteran actor's to give you
nothing when the cameras not
on them to sort of call it
in or dial it in, but Ted
was always... and Jason too,
both of them, were always
very good about really being
in the scene when the camera
wasn't on them and giving
you what you needed. [Ted]
would do great things even
when he wasn't speaking, you
know. He would have these
little takes just to himself.
It would be amazing, because
he would give you different
things each time. I mean even
just for shots of him listening.
It would be a totally different
thing each time and each interesting
and great choices. They were
definitely a good group to
work with and would run with
the stuff I was doing and
it was good, you know.
So
your background is in theater,
right?
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Yeah,
I went to NYU for theater,
directing and acting. So a
major part of my background
is theater. I was on tour
with Wit
for a while. I had a theater
company, was artistic director
of it. I did a bunch of plays
in New York and that's mainly
it. I did some sketch comedy
as well in New York with this
group Broken Lizards and I
had a theater company, Real
Theatreworks Inc, which I
co-founded with two other
grads from NYU: Daryl
Watson who's a writer,
writes on Johnny
and the Sprites,
and Shamis
Beckley who's been helping
the Obama campaign. She's
in Middle America and doing
the acting thing as well.
So that's the background I
came from.
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I
wound up getting a pilot.
I'm from Brooklyn, from New
York and I wound up getting
a pilot right out of college.
I was going in and out of
college, partially for work
and partially for, who knows
what... running out of scholarship
money. And the very last time
I left college I wound up
meeting for a pilot that I
got. I wound up going on the
show Luis
with Luis
Guzman who is awesome
who was sort of like an uncle
to me when I got to L.A. and
introduced me to this funky
little world, both of us being
sort of Brooklyn... we're
New York guys coming into
this world. So that's where
my background came in. So
I was doing drama when I was
in New York, TV wise at least:
Law
and Order, The
Sopranos as much
as you can do that when you're
a New York actor. I came to
L.A. and hit the sitcom scene
and that just recently has
been transition into more
movie stuff. The last year
I think I worked on like three
movies.
You
did Psych
last year too, right?
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I
did do Psych
as well last year. I think
I shot a pilot and then I
wound up going to Canada for
Psych. Which was awesome,
with James
Roday and Dulé
Hill. Which was cool because
I was testing for the pilot
of Psych way back when it
started. I think it was between
me and two or three other
guys. We'd had the studio
test and then they brought
in Dulé Hill at the
last minute. It was like,
what? It was like a big coup.
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So
it was awesome to be doing
Psych because actually part
of the test was auditioning
with James Roday. We would
improvise a little. I don't
know if you know, but it's
few and far between finding
good improvisational actors
especially ones where you
can work with and bounce off
of each other. James is definitely
one of the favorite actors
of mine to have that happen
with. So when I got to guest
star on the show it was a
lot of fun.
Very
good. So are you permanently
in L.A. now?
I'm
currently in L.A. right now.
I'm going to New York in about
a week for theater. I'm working
this poetry show. It's basically
going to be a year review
from a poet's point of view.
It's going to be eight poets.
I'm directing the show in
December. It will probably
be at.... Well, we're not
sure where it's going to be
just yet. We'll have stuff
on line, but it's happening
on July 26th. We're doing
sort of sneak peek of the
show. It's spoken word poems
mostly Nuyorican
folks. They're probably going
to line up and it will be
about eight of them doing
poems and then a little intermission.
Then we'll do sort of a preview
of the show and it's going
to be a multimedia thing.
We're going to have the spoken
word poets, but we're also
going to have almost a choreographed
poem on stage. Certain parts
of it will have videos playing
during the stuff that relates
to the thing. Sort of like
Def Poetry Jam but more theatrical,
bring a theatricality out
of it, and not just a round
robin tournament of poets.
You know bring a sort of stage
and audience involved into
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You're
a poet as well, is that right?
Yeah
I was on the 2001 Nuyorican
National Team, went to a national
poetry event got a poet's
license, believe it or not.
This license they give you.
I
didn't know they actually
gave you a poetic license.
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Malcolm
Barrett and the cast
of The Sketch Show with Kelsey
Grammer |
Yeah,
a poet's license it was great.
It was 2001 and we went to
nationals and when you sign
up there they give you a little
thing that says "poetic
license." I carried it
around in my wallet until
it disintegrated. It was just
a little piece of paper. It
was great. So I was on the
team for a little bit and
I still know a bunch of folks.
I still do it from time to
time. I do spoken word and
I tour a little bit doing
colleges. I did Princeton
and I did NYU and a couple
of different NYU event, Nuyorican
champions, you know.
I
try to do as many different
things as I can. So this is
kind of where I am right now
is acting. I've done theater.
I've done poetry. I've done
music. I try never to stick
with one thing. I have a short
attention span, so I gotta
keep going.
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Actings
the most rewarding. It's getting
me paid the most. It's rewarding
me with cash dollars.
Yeah,
poets don't get paid much.
No,
poets don't. That's definitely...
you're getting rewarded in
spirit when you're doing poetry. |
But,
no, it's been a gentle balance.
It's been a good balance,
because a lot of this has
been affording me some of
the more artistic endeavors
like directing the poetry
shows and the music and all
these sort of things. So everything
winds of feeding each other.
My main focus is just to express
what I need to express at
the time and more than likely
it's the voice of the underrepresented,
may it be poetry covering
the news don't see may it
be sort of quirky characters
or underdogs in whatever respect.
You know be it racially, be
it emotionally, be it physically,
be it geographically. Whoever's
just not being spoken for
I tend to want to have that
voice be heard. And I think
that reflects in a lot of
the characters I play like
the guy who is looking for
hope and purpose through the
lottery. I like these foiled,
flawed characters searching
for something greater than
themselves.
Is
there any dream project you'd
like to do that you haven't
done yet?
There
are tons of things that I'd
like to do. I mean I'm trying
to build a career so everything
is just a step to something
else. But you know I think
I just want to keep on writing.
There are a couple of things
I'm writing that I kind of
want to have done. But I don't
know, I'm working on crazy
ideas. I was thinking of re-doing
Brother from Another Planet
just because I think that'd
be hilarious.
Honestly,
I'd just like to whatever
I've done to have the next
thing be completely different.
I was doing a lot of sitcoms
and then I wound up doing
a single camera. I just did
this single camera pilot which
was a lot of fun and so that
was different. The three movies
that I just did were all completely
different. One is a Dane
Cook improv comedy [My
Best Friend's Girl].
Another is this heavy drama,
I think it's called American
Violet, that's about
these wrongly accused African
American men accused of being
drug dealers in the south,
based on a true story and
sort of shedding some light
on that. That's happening.
And then I did this movie
with Kathryn Bigelow [The
Hurt Locker] about these soldiers
in Iraq. You know as long
as it's relevant, interesting
and different, that's where
I want to be. And new and
challenging. I don't want
to give the audience the same
thing every time.
I'm always asked like is there
one particular thing. I don't
know. There's people I want
to work with. There's tons
of folks I'd love to work
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Who
are some of your favorites?
Who
are some of my favorite people
I'd love to work with? I'd
love to work with Philip Seymour
Hoffman, Don Cheadle, Denzel
Washington, Martin Scorsese
would be interesting, Spike
Lee, tons of folks. The dude
from Pie. Tons of different
folks. I like that chick from
The
Contender. I can't
remember her name. I can never
remember her name. [Joan
Allen?]
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I'll
look it up.
Okay,
but she's awesome. Put that
down. Chick from Contender
I want to work with you. You're
awesome. She's in the Bourne
Supremacy. She's good. Oh,
I really want to work with
Kerry
Washington. I want to
work with her. She seems interesting.
And the Apatow
gang if they'd let me in a
movie. We could do something.
We could do something together.
Apatow
works with a lot of the same
people over and over, right?
Once you're in you keep going.
Yeah,
I don't know. I went in for
Knocked
Up, but they gave
it to one of their friends
or their nephew or something
like that. That's my thing
man. You know I'd like to
work with some folks, but
I'd like to create some new
stuff. I'd be happy to see
some of my contemporaries
come up more and more whoever
they might be.
I
think that was all the questions
I had. Anything else you'd
like to tell me about?
No,
no, but if you could work
in the show, the poetry show.
I have no idea when you're
going to be running this.
What
was the name of the poetry
show?
Oh,
it's called SWAP 08. The Spoken
Word Almanac Project. We're
about to have a myspace in
the next couple of days. I'll
hit you with an email once
we get it down there.
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The
Sketch Show "Phobia Convention"
featuring Malcolm Barrett
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